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Contradictory?
[edit]Under "Demographics" the number of Roma is given as 300,000. In the next line as a result of the census their number is given as 609,000. Which figure is correct? Or how is the difference explained?
Also: to my knowledge not all gipsies in Hungary are Roma. They are just the largest group. Hence the term "Roma" is regarded as an imposition by the smaller gipsy groups.
== Demography == === Urbanization === {{Main|List of cities and towns of Hungary}} {{Largest cities of Hungary}} {{copied |from =www.en.wikipedia/List of cities and towns of Hungary}} [[File:Hungary local administration.png|thumb|350px|Towns and villages in Hungary]] [[Hungary]] has 3,152 localities as of July 15, 2013. 346 towns (Hungarian term: ''város'', plural: ''városok''; the terminology doesn't distinguish between [[city|cities]] and [[town]]s – the term town is used in official translations) and 2,806 villages (Hungarian: ''község'', plural: ''községek''). The number of towns can change, since villages can be elevated to town status by act of the President. The capital Budapest has a special status and is not included in any county while 23 of the towns are so-called urban counties (''megyei jogú város'' – town with county rights). All county seats except Budapest are urban counties. Four of the cities ([[Budapest]], [[Miskolc]], [[Győr]], and [[Pécs]]) have agglomerations, and the Hungarian Statistical Office distinguishes seventeen other areas in earlier stages of agglomeration development.<ref>http://portal.ksh.hu/portal/page?_pageid=37,412178&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL#sett</ref> The largest city is the capital, Budapest, the smallest town is [[Pálháza]] with 1038 inhabitants (2010). The largest village is [[Solymár]] (population: 10,123 as of 2010) There are more than 100 villages with fewer than 100 inhabitants while the smallest villages have fewer than 20 inhabitants. {{reflist talk}}
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Please change, that the standard Hungarian is based on what people speak at Budapest. It is based on what they speak in Zemplén. That's what got standardised with the language revolution. Leaving local expressions and forms behind. 2001:4C4D:1E08:3800:5424:C1FF:DE22:E5D2 (talk) 18:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:42, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Technically both are true: standard Hungarian developed from the Northern Hungarian dialect, but the variety spoken in Budapest (and almost everywhere else except maybe the westernmost places and some territories outside current borders) is now identical to it. Will try to find sources but I'm not sure there'll be any English ones. – Alensha talk 16:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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110.174.201.187 (talk) 08:41, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
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I need to fix a spelling mistake . 110.174.201.187 (talk) 08:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Government info box
[edit]Hello, I believe it should be noted in the government info box that the government of Hungary is currently authoritarian and autocratic but I wanted to be able to reach a consensus before adding anything. ErickTheMerrick (talk) 22:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Middle Ages
[edit]@Are2The2: This is the only History section to include subsections. It also includes excessive detail for this high-level summary article - discussion of genetics, for example, is best left to a subarticle. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:15, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think the tag should have been placed higher if it relates to the section as a whole.
- The origins of the Hungarian conquerors is a significant detail. I summarised “genetic and linguistic evidence” as “research”. Are2The2 (talk) 01:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, I agree with Nikkimaria. Morover I recognized a while ago that detailed edits of Are2The2 are just a selective cherry pickings. I dont think it is important here in a main country article that Byzantine sources called Hungary as Turcia 1100 years ago. It should be in sub articles. Are2The2 likes only the Treaty of Passarowitz in 1718 which restored only a smaller last piece of Hungary while Ottoman Hungary ended in 1699 (probably he likes mention that Turkish rule was longer in the entire country). At the moment "turn of 18th century" mention that thing in the short lead. While he removes for example the Principality of Transylvania which was a really important Hungarian state during that period. I also observed that Are2The2 carefully cherry picking only the Siberian theory thing, spam this everywhere, even does not fit in this article, while he removed the mentioning the other areas from here: Magyar tribes, morover many of his sources were random to force this Siberia mania at any cost, as I checked already some, and I corrected some of them. As we can read in the source, Szeifert et al. 2022 [1] proposed that most of the early Hungarian tribes originated from the Volga-Kama and Southern Ural regions, where they were composed of a mixed population. Despite, Are2The2 still use that source for his Siberia mania, however the source does not say that, this is clearly a bad fait edit. There are many genetic study about the origin of Hungarian conquerors, but Are2The2 did not like those one in other articles which were not supporting that Siberia thing. That is important, but not this country summary main article. OrionNimrod (talk) 01:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, the vast majority of Hungary was ceded to the Habsburgs in 1699. My concern was simply that it was inaccurate to state that Hungary was reunited at the turn of the 18th century. Certain areas, albeit relatively small areas at the southern border, were still under Ottoman rule until the Treaty of Passarowitz in 1718. Are2The2 (talk) 03:29, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, I agree with Nikkimaria. Morover I recognized a while ago that detailed edits of Are2The2 are just a selective cherry pickings. I dont think it is important here in a main country article that Byzantine sources called Hungary as Turcia 1100 years ago. It should be in sub articles. Are2The2 likes only the Treaty of Passarowitz in 1718 which restored only a smaller last piece of Hungary while Ottoman Hungary ended in 1699 (probably he likes mention that Turkish rule was longer in the entire country). At the moment "turn of 18th century" mention that thing in the short lead. While he removes for example the Principality of Transylvania which was a really important Hungarian state during that period. I also observed that Are2The2 carefully cherry picking only the Siberian theory thing, spam this everywhere, even does not fit in this article, while he removed the mentioning the other areas from here: Magyar tribes, morover many of his sources were random to force this Siberia mania at any cost, as I checked already some, and I corrected some of them. As we can read in the source, Szeifert et al. 2022 [1] proposed that most of the early Hungarian tribes originated from the Volga-Kama and Southern Ural regions, where they were composed of a mixed population. Despite, Are2The2 still use that source for his Siberia mania, however the source does not say that, this is clearly a bad fait edit. There are many genetic study about the origin of Hungarian conquerors, but Are2The2 did not like those one in other articles which were not supporting that Siberia thing. That is important, but not this country summary main article. OrionNimrod (talk) 01:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)